The Threshold Society welcomes people interested in Sufism and the Way of Mevlana Rumi.

Kabir and Camille have moved to Escondido, California, near San Diego, where they hold periodic gatherings. The gatherings at our current “mother center” in Escondido, California run for about two hours and typically include silent meditation; sohbet, “spiritual conversation,” often on the subject of a monthly theme; music; and the form of chanting known as zhikr, “remembrance.” If you would like to inquire about attending, please contact Ed Clifford:




These are people who have been recognized for their maturity, devotion, and creative contribution to the Society and the Mevlevi tradition. A Khalife has the full support of Shaikh Kabir and Camille, and has the right to initiate into the Mevlevi Order.

London: Mahmoud Mostafa

Portland, Oregon: Khadim Chishti:


Active Groups

These are groups of six or more people who meet regularly to follow a format of study suggested by Threshold. They gather under the direction of one or more people recognized by the Society. The contact emails are listed below.

Bay Area, California USA Zakiuddin McNulty:

Portland, Oregon USA Khadim Chishti:

Washington, DC USA Norma McOmber:

Woodstock, NY USA Matthew Wright:

Saint Louis, Missouri USA Debra Shakira Shatoff

Louisville, Kentucky USA Abdur-Ra’uf Gharib:

London, England Mahmoud Mostafa:

Manchester/Wilmslow, England Fatimah Ashrif:

Kendal, England Saimma Dyer:

Islamabad, Pakistan Shazreh Hussain:

Jakarta, Indonesia Ita Mucharam:


Study Circles & Contacts

Istanbul, Turkey Aykut Akalin:

The Netherlands Zeliha Akdan:

Johannesburg, S. Africa Hasnayn Ebrahim:

Mexico Patzia Gonzalez

Peterboro, Ontario Patzia Gonzalez